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We have a tendency to hear and read about explanations that sooner or later level in the direction of the idea that near-death experiences are in some way formulated in the mind and that they are not serious experiences.
Is there a satisfying and world-wide rationalization concerning this phenomenon? Werner Huemer talks to the Swiss death researcher Reto Eberhard about this standard concern.
Contents:
00:00:32 Are near-death experiences produced in the brain?
00:01:56 The complexity of near-death experiences
00:03:06 Near-death experiences and the media
00:06:57 The handling on a scientific level
00:14:57 The speculation of survival
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Director: Mehmet Yesilgöz
Translation: Katrin Salhenegger-Niamir
Voice-around: Aryan Salhenegger-Niamir, Werner Huemer
Editor, Interviewer: Werner Huemer
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When some people had an NDE, they had left their body and were able to describe for example people in the hospital's waiting room which was verifiable.
Later, when they went to "heaven" they met their members of family whom they didn't know on Earth and had not even seen their picture.
So, this whole experience is totally verifiable – the soul exists and we do continue living after death.
Thank you.
I completely don't care what the scientists say about the NDE's as I know they're real as we can verify them!
I know people don't die as I've heard my deceased mum talking to me and her voice was loud and clear! At that moment I totally forgot that she was dead and I went and did what she had asked me to do!
My husband saw his deceased friend at work, only my husband didn't know yet he was dead!
We have had so many incredible things happening to us, that we have not even a tiniest doubt that NDE's are real and that we don't die!
Great channel, great interview. Thanks for it and the translation
Even today, 30 silver pieces cannot buy you integrity.. Fine for politics but not for genuine science.
Materialism describes reality very well, but does not explain reality at all. Short answer… No.
The very first question, how can near death experiences be proven to be originating inside or outside of the brain… The guest believes it will never be answered. To me, it has already been answered many times. Many people that have died and come back report things they should never be able to know, such as describing conversations happening in a waiting room down the hall, or doctors shouting orders, or things happening on the roof or outside as they float out of their bodies and through the ceiling.
If you happen to be an atheist…why bother discussing this topic .
Only a blind idiot would take such a narrow point of view.
I was 'skeptical' with religion/Christianity as a young adult till I could make a more logical, rational decision, which I did in my late 20's. I do and did the same thing with everything I come across, including NDE's, Reincarnation, Paranormal… I am without doubt and most certain that the above mentioned is as real as it gets. What I don't understand is how one can believe in something without first being skeptical and searching truth before believing and knowing in something like religion and even some in science. (Materialism) A closed mind is a terrible thing to waste.
I don’t see how a damaged brain would be
Self aware enough to create a seamless storyline about its own death , then if you actually die and never come back from that experience-it would make the brain some kind of subconscious prophet . It would be like dreaming that I was going to hit the lottery, then I actually hit the lottery . Also in a purely materialistic world there are no values, therefore the reality of a damaged brain is just as equally valid as the reality of a brain that we call fully functional. A brain that is damaged and can produce a reality Up to its limits, implies that a fully functional brain is only producing reality up to its limits also.
It's about the funding.
I am the naturalist and polymath you are looking for. My mission is to enlighten the.modern world into the true pathwayts of our individual and oversoul
"LIFE The Real Self", is Non-Dimensional, and in NO WAY represents, nor even remotely Looks anything like any species, including the human species…
in 1973 I was pronounced "DEAD On ARRIVAL" at a medical center… More than half an hour passed, then my heart started again… During that time, I "LIFE The Real Self", entered the WHITE LIGHT, and have remained in the WHITE LIGHT to this day… Those who claim to have returned, have NOT recognize WHAT, The WHITE LIGHT really is… When you recognize WHAT the LIGHT actually is, and accept it, you remain in The LIGHT…
May be there will always have be a level of uncertainty with these kind of experiences (with the masses anyway). If, indeed, we are here as a learning experience, wouldn’t it have too much of an impact on how we lived our day-to-day lives if we knew, beyond any doubt, what was waiting for us after our death?
If a brain deprived of oxygen virtually shut down or even fully shut down can conjure up such rich vivid experiences then we are seeing earth magic right there. And we know the physical dimension has laws that prohibit magic and things that break these laws. So the logic dictates the brain cannot be doing these things and magic doesn’t happen here so something else is happening. That’s the science!
You cant explain an NDE to most people in this dimension unless they have had one themselves .
Hello Thanatos ! Thanks for the interview with Dr Eberhard. At around 9.10, Dr Eberhard makes a mistake by mixing up two (2) different prospective studies. Firstly, Penny Sartori's 2005 study at Morriston hospital in Swansea, Wales and Dr Sam Parnia's multi centre (several countries) Aware study (2014). The two patients he refers to are from the Aware study, one of them a 57 year old man (Mr A) who did indeed correctly describe details of his own resuscitation during a period when his heart was stopped and he had no brain function. Best regards!
Or…is it possible to explain the physical world in a metaphysical way?
Yes trust the science. Look where it's gotten us in the last 2 years . I trust God
Well I have had 2 OBEs and various Lucid Dream states, so although I am confident mind extends beyond the body, there will always be a niggling doubt at the back of my mind that perhaps it's all some astounding illusion formed by our unique mysterious brains. However, from my personal experiences I believe it was real.
So I guess there's two schools of thought – 1) that it's just a deeply complex illusion somehow mustered by the brain which one day we will explain or 2) it's non-local consciousness i.e mind/awareness transcending the body and continuing to exist "out there", in some way we will never understand.
What's really needed is to study the psychology of denial and malingering. There is a constant process of selection, in which honest skeptics are convinced and hence leave the society of skeptics. The filtering occurs when dishonest skeptics, i.e., cynics, examine the same evidence but refuse to be convinced. That creates an increasingly large pool of irrational people in the skeptical camp–people who go into denial in their refusal to face the evidence that NDE's are obviously not a brain-based phenomenon. This is not a situation where the advocates of naturalistic explanations are equally rational as their counterparts in the paranormal camp. So the principle of "equal time" and honest debate falls apart. There has not been an honest debate on this subject for decades.
Good one. Remember that blind persons who've had out of body NDE experiences also accurately report visual actions by medical personnel.
An electrophysiological correlation to/with the brain does not mean that the experience is "confined" to or within the brain. The technologically observed activities in the brain may be extensions of consciousness, or mind, which is not 'in' the brain at all.
Materialism need to stop asking what kind of cheese is the moon made of: God is made of spirit, spirit is what the mind (separate from the brain) is made of. Spirit is the source of matter, and the purpose of science (who else chooses the conclusions of the evidence, but human minds?). Spirituality can explain science, yet science can only catch a glimpse of what the spirit does (just like our human eyes only catch a very small are of the entire spectrum of light). The body is an egg for the spirit, and the spirit lives and grows to become autonomous from matter.
It was an interesting discussion, but I think it could go deeper. I really do hope that NDEs are something beyond this world, and maybe they are. I am not closed to the idea, not at all. But I also feel it to be possible that they are a very, very clever survival process that uses mythic material of the unconscious packaged in persuasive contexts, the purpose of which is to get you to reinvest in biological life. Ruling out that possibility can't be done just by asserting it false. We don't know that anyone who has irreversibly died has actually gone on to continue to exist. We only know that those who have "returned", at least about 10-15% of them, have an intriguing experience to report. It seems to be problematic to gain formal evidence of paranormal perception in these episodes, though maybe it is a matter of sample size in the studies done so far (Aware I). I look forward to the release of Aware II. But if it should turn out that sample size is not the problem, then there are more serious issues, imo. Also, it is possible for the core fact of NDEs to be true without any of their content necessarily being true, something which seems to just be forgotten in this debate. Deceased relatives in these experiences may or may not really be your relatives, etc, etc. I know this is too much doubt for some people, but unfortunately I have come to it by hard knocks.
What convinces me that people survive death is the veridical information that very young children share after their NDEs.
Several years ago I along with others engaged with Dr Worelee on this issue and I pointed out to him that even when people are anaesthetized the Hidden Observer, whom he had never heard of still sees and hears everything that goes on and this is why surgeons should be very careful about what they are saying about the patient during the operation. We also know that memories are laid down in engrams and these normally happen to be traumatic memories.
Anthony Peake argues that we are all in our own phaneron and when we die we actually drop out of time and that when you experience a past life review you are reliving your life again. This he calls Cheating the ferryman is more commonly known as Eternal Recurrence. Anthony goes on to say that when you have a deja vu it's because you are remembering the last time you were here. I will leave you with a comment from Tessa Dick the widow of the late great science fiction writer Philip K Dick:
“Anecdotal evidence, which the skeptics so readily dismiss, is actually empirical
observation and ought to be the beginning of investigation, not the end of it.”
Tessa B Dick
The soul cannot be explained scientifically. Just as love cannot be satisfactorily explained with an equation.