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How do near-death experience scientists and people who have had NDEs or similar transformative experience tackle skeptics? This panel of experiencers and scientists discusses materialistic skeptics and how to take care of this contrary viewpoint. Panelists include Dr. Eben Alexander, MD Neal Grossman, PhD Stephan Schwartz, and Marjorie Woollacott, PhD. The moderator is Janice Miner Holden, EdD, a leading near-death and transpersonal experience researcher, president of the International Association for Near-Death Scientific tests (IANDS) and editor of the “Journal of Near-Death Research”.
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Near-death and other transpersonal experiencers, wellbeing industry experts, and students have all encountered dogmatic materialists: persons who sustain staunch determination to philosophical materialism– the belief that all phenomena occur from and can be described only in terms of bodily phenomena, which include that the human mind is exclusively accountable for human consciousness this sort of that, when the brain dies, consciousness dies–without possessing examined the proof for idealism–the belief that consciousness is key, which include that though the brain and consciousness are closely connected in the course of human existence, consciousness preexists the brain and survives mind death.
Individuals on this panel have all experienced—and research has demonstrated that NDErs have often felt harmed by—such encounters. A single challenge of such encounters is to reconcile a essential message of NDEs—to deal with others lovingly—with the irritation of remaining “dissed”—dismissed, discredited, and so forth.—by dogmatic materialists. Panelists will each tackle these topics and will then engage in dialogue in between on their own and with the audience, which includes panelists’ favourite publications pertinent to the topic.
About Eben Alexander, MD
Eben Alexander III, MD, FACS, BCNS, former affiliate professor of Neurosurgery at Harvard Professional medical Faculty, has delved deeply into investigation of the mind-body difficulty and the essential character of consciousness at any time because his life-transforming near-death experience thanks to gram-destructive bacterial meningitis in 2008, ensuing in the publications “Proof of Heaven”, “The Map of Heaven”, and, most a short while ago, “Residing in a Mindful Universe” (co-authored with companion Karen Newell), which is all about the emerging scientific watch of consciousness.
About Neal Grossman, PhD
Given that retiring a number of yrs ago soon after about 40 many years on college at the University of Illinois at Chicago, Neal Grossman, PhD, associate professor emeritus of philosophy, no for a longer time has nearly anything to profess but has posted a 2014 e-book, “The Spirit of Spinoza: Healing the Mind, a readable presentation of Spinoza’s exceptional procedure of spiritual psychotherapy”.
About Stephan Schwartz
Stephan A. Schwartz, Distinguished Consulting College of Saybrook College, Fellow of the William James Centre for Consciousness Scientific tests at Sofia University, and Research Associate of the Cognitive Sciences Laboratory of the Laboratories for Elementary Research columnist for the journal Examine and editor of the everyday internet publication Schwartzreport.internet is an experimentalist who for 50 % a century has analyzed the character of consciousness, is one of the tiny group that started present day Remote Viewing research, and is the principal researcher learning the use of Remote Viewing in archaeology as properly as a researcher of creativity, meditation, and Therapeutic Intent/Healing.
About Marjorie Woollacott, PhD
Marjorie Woollacott, PhD, professor emerita of Neuroscience and Human Physiology at the College of Oregon, has been a neuroscientist for additional than three decades and a meditator for virtually 4 acquiring experienced research funded by the Countrywide Institutes of Wellness and the Countrywide Science Foundation, she has coauthored a well known textbook for health and fitness pros and has created much more than 180 peer-reviewed research articles, various of which ended up on meditation, the matter that motivated her to publish her most new e book, “Infinite Consciousness: The Awakening of a Scientific Mind”, in which she explores scientific studies supporting the premise that consciousness features beyond the mind.
https://marjoriewoollacott.com/
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remember what someone once said. Science advances one funeral at a time. That's as the old die and the young take over.
I Don't have more doubts.
We are millenary spirits.
Essa não é a primeira vez que estamos aqui.
Já vivemos muitas vidas com muitas pessoas diferentes da nossa atual família.
Voltamos em novos corpos carnais para continuar nossa jornada evolutiva na terra.
O aprendizado nunca termina.
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Thanks for the interesting talk. I would like to believe that deceased people who were close to me continue to exist in some way, but I'm still not convinced. An important question to me is how well and reliably the cases of allegedly verified Out-of-Body Experiences are actually documented. It would come closer to a proof if such a case happened in a study under controlled conditions, as Sam Parnia tried in the Aware study by setting up potential visual targets for people who left their body, but this hasn't yielded the desired kind of result so far.
Now we have the after life know it alls.
Nice work!
The last phrase “how it’s going to happen…” – I believe it’s spelled out in the Bible. The Prince of Peace will establish his Kingdom and there will be a new Heaven and a new Earth, for the old will pass away.
I bet it’ll be something like that (metaphor of literally…I won’t speculate. But I believe after it’s happened, we will be able to see it as clear as day). – Shalom
I highly recommend The Self Does Not Die. It is still available on Amazon.
I love how young people use the term woke when they are so very asleep!
I have deep faith in God as a consciousness and this world is not 6,000 years old. I am pretty deeply Christian but I also believe that God could have created the world in any way that he chose and this universe is 13.8 billion years old as far as we know.
I have finally gotten to thought-free meditation and I see wonderful things and here wonderful things that aren't necessarily of this world that I am conscious of.
It is called the near-death experience but I have found most of the people who have had them were actually dead for some period of time. I think that one of the first things we need to do is to rename NDEs.
I have been meditating since 12 years old. My life was not great at home or at school and I wouldn't have survived without meditation. I recommend it to everybody and it's not as difficult as anyone might think it is. I began with a book called The relaxation response and went from there. Now it is automatic when I close my eyes and can also be done with them open but not as easily because my mind doesn't shut down well when things are going on around me. I also needed meditation because my brain never shut off and I had insomnia as well.
I am deeply spiritual and deeply scientific as Dr Alexander's father was.
How to handle skeptics? That's your question? Not 'how to cultivate skepticism.? IANDS does not appear to be a scientific organisation
Stephen Schwartz for all his knowledge, has sorely misunderstood the Council of Trent. It was in fact Galileo who said to do science we must leave consciousness to one side. Philip Goff, a panpsychist philosopher, has a great book called Galileo's Error.
of course it is emorions, blocking curiosity. they pretend that its rationalism, but its nor. its a form of cowardice. scratch the surface, and you get anger, not reasoning, which is emotional, not rational.
Don’t forget, the job of the “ opposition” is to help make us forget who we really are and from where we came. We are here for a human experience. It would be a tremendous hindrance for us to have full knowledge and recall of the truth. . However, this “ in between” is perfect as far as I’m concerned!
55:20 Book, Mind beyond Physicalism
#Culture
50:50 Change Consciousness by Beingness
Gandhi … Nature of Character who we are
6:48 Music from Beethoven
– Prof. Neal Grossman
10:27 Experience – Eben Alexander
5:39 Met George G. Ritchie, M.D., Author 'Return From Tomorrow'
Really enjoyed this! I agree, as one panelist pointed out, that this isn't really about skepticism, though (which is something healthy and good that we all need); it's about folks who're so dogmatically attached to the concept of materialism that they don't even want to look at any evidence that might disprove it—which of course is not good science. Anyway, another great panel discussion. Thank you!
The problem is there are almost no genuine skeptics, they are almost all militant, dogmatic materialists.
Still so much to say. I hate these time constraints. I was really looking forward to questions from the audience. However, truly wonderful and informative panel and conversation. They put my thoughts to word's beautifully.
Neal is absolutely right As Well about skepticism being irrational at this point in the argument, with all of the data. They simply refuse to look at. Wich makes THEM less credible.
We have surpassed the threshold of beyond a reasonable doubt at this point. If you think this whole argument for consciousness existing beyond and after brain death silly and not possible, and that NDEs are hallucinations etc, you simply haven't done your research or refuse to. Either one is even more foolish.
We have been so fooled by physicality and materialism and believing everything around us is solid and separate from us etc… We have believed for 300 years that consciousness is created by complex systems such as the brain, and we still believe that everything we see and experience is very much real and that we have no effect on them, such as a virus or cancer etc… but yet somehow we ignore what quantum physics has been telling us for a 100 years and that is, we are ALL connected, and there is NO such thing as solidity and a physical material anything, and that what we are experiencing is an illusion made up by the mind, so the viruses and the cancers are NOT real in the sense of the real reality.
What makes up these things as a real experience is a vibration that is focused on the illusion of it and what we deem to be real is reflected to us in this thing we call out here.. So if your conscious or subconscious mind is defaulted as a fear based mind, then cancer, viruses etc… has to become the reflection of that vibrational fear… When you have a mass collective consciousness of a fear based something, then that something will have an effect on the vulnerable who fear it and they will all experience the same or similar effects as a result, and who gets wealthier in the process from our fears, well I will leave that one for your imagination.
When you finally understand that this physical experience is an illusion created by the mind, your mind expands and you don't fear anything because you know for sure that it's all just an illusion especially if you have had an NDE or an OBE, you start to see everything for what it really is and you can even get frustrated because you know that the majority don't have a clue and for them all of it is very much the only reality they know, and then they want to argue for their limitations as a result. You have to ask yourself, is it real… its only a real experience if you believe it is. Can you fly off a building if you jumped off it, NO "why" because your subconscious mind wont believe it and you will most likely hit the ground, but is it possible… YES… if your believe was strong enough because its only an illusion. It has to be stronger than a belief in order to accomplish such a task, it has to be a KNOWING for sure. NDEs and OBEs are a KNOWING for sure.
In 300 years the human brain will fill up that's just another materialist view of our consciousness it always remembers important stuff.
Materialism will never explain consciousness.
An informative discussion, thanks people…. Other than the mention of "climate change" which people should realise is scientifically shown not to be caused by people but natural as the temperature goes up and down over the centuries.
Often so called 'climate change' is mentioned in relation to the environment and waste pollution, the poising of the seas with plastic etc. which any sane person is against. But they are separate issues… although don't get me wrong, I have never owned a car and dislike fumes and will be glad to see the back of oil driven technologies… but they do not change the global temperature to any degree worthy of a mention.
58:36 the most important thing in this universe is unconditional love.
This panel discussion is excellent. I appreciated all viewpoints but especially that of Dr. Eben Alexanderlll. He spoke from a very human but at the same time a very scientific point of view. I very much appreciated it on my own studies of the subject. You all are very good in your fields but in particular NDE’s!!! Thank you very much. Dr.James Mondok
Loved listening to Neal Grossman and his memory of the late beautiful Houston Smith. I'd love to try ayahuasca. Fantastic video!
The differential frequency sound for meditation purposes as mentioned by Eben sounds very interesting.
I read an article featured in Scientific American "What Near-Death Experiences Reveal about the Brain" By Christof Koch on June 1, 2020 it's available to read online.
Ive had many spiritual experiences, lots of evidence for open minded people
Happy to see this! Thank you!!
Why aren't these speakers wearing masks?
The problem with social media is that everyone who want a book deal (or even a few 'likes !' ) can watch a few NDE videos and make up their own NDE.
Eben Alexander touches on a major problem when he talks of the materialist bias in our educational system and media. I believe that idealism is probably correct, but idealism also has an empowering message, and the ruling class elites do not necessarily want such an empowering message to spread through the population. Populations that operate under materialist assumptions are more fearful and easier to control. This is much bigger than most people realize. It's not a simple matter of convincing people in the media and educational system that they are wrong.
"I thus learnt my first great lesson in the inquiry into these obscure fields of knowledge (mesmerism, spiritualism), never to accept the disbelief of great men or their accusations of imposture or of imbecility, as of any weight when opposed to the repeated observation of facts by other men, admittedly sane and honest. The whole history of science shows us that whenever the educated and scientific men of any age have denied the facts of other investigators on a priori grounds of absurdity or impossibility, the deniers have always been wrong." – Alfred Russell Wallace, evolutionist contemporary of Charles Darwin.
Stephen's talk is interesting – the threat of death. I was raised RCC. Had a very bad experience. Nuff said. Then one sunny day walking along a river I thought about going back to 'Church' for the communal/cummunity aspect as much as anything 'Couldn't all be bad'. I will never forget hearing like a loud voice out of nowhere – 'Why seek the living amongst the dead…..' It was so vivid. Fifteen years ago. I did go back and it was very difficult at first. But I felt it was about my having to learn something. Not to judge as I was being judged. That's the truth. Some people must have thought me deaf. I literally wanted to get up and drag them and kick them outside the house of prayer. But I kept stoom and asked for patience and enlightenment for the neanderthals. 😉 lol It worked. I became the best thing since sliced bread. I am open to all and have been for years. But some times we are planted in soil to learn how to grow. Maybe 'materialists' are there too to help themselves grow and challenge you all to grow too. Oh, there was one incident. A man said something in early days. I got so mad I went over and kicked him as hard as I could in the nuts five times. Big brute he was too. Never opened his trap again. That taught him. 😉 LOL
Great group of people and to listen to. Hope, inspiration, Light – Love – LIFE.
I love the near-death experience topic and Jan always does a wonderful job but two of these professors acted like they had dementia by getting off the subject and speaking of politics and socialism being the norm when worldwide socialism is harmful. I wish they would have stayed on topic instead of being so easily distracted.
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This was very uplifting and encouraging. I resonate with Neil Grossman 100% although I suspect that his KNOWINGS lead him in logic to the same place as do mine. Because of his academic position He cannot make public his "beliefs" but I can.