Kimberly Sharp – Beyond the Body but not Over the Line: NDEs and OBEs

Kimberly Sharp – Beyond the Body but not Over the Line: NDEs and OBEs

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Beyond the Body but not Over the Line: NDEs and OBEs
Kimberly Sharp, MSW — http://www.seattleiands.org/htm/afterthelight.htm

Presented at the IANDS 2010 Conference, Sept. 2-4, in Denver, CO

Research has given scant interest to the differences between a near-death experience (NDE) and a non-life threatening out-of-body experience (OBE). This presentation compares the NDE to the OBE from the vantage point of personal experience, including the author’s decades of clinical interviews with adults and children.

For more information on near-death experiences, visit http://iands.org

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  1. Was that an OBE ?. Sounds like she is speaking to people with medical knowledge . Others may not understand some of the terms used. She probably knew that the audience would understand her. That's the best I can explain why she spoke it that way. Just my opinion ….

  2. This is the best I've seen yet. Just because of the humour, the attitude. The lack of any religion distortion makes it pure, untainted, true, believable. And her zest and enthusiasm, joy, happiness, humour – you see they say from time to time that true life, the soul, etc., is a joyful thing and you'd expect that wouldn't you – but they come back and tell their stories and there's generally what i find to be a fairly obvious lack of effect or is it 'affect' – I mean emotions. I mean what this woman has.

  3. The provided differences are not accurate, and are possibly misleading.

    It might help to organize this information in an alternative way. A lot of NDE reports begin with an Out of body experience. That first section of those reports do not differ, from OBE's, in respect to awareness of spacetime, or perception of normal world environment. Also multiple NDE's report having a bilocated awareness of what was happening with their physical body, and their out of body perspective, at the same time. Some NDE reports do not go beyond anything more than an out of body experience too; they may report something like I had a heart attach, I was on the ceiling (with or without another presence/being there), and then I was back in my body.
    NDE's seem to often go beyond the typical OBE, and sometimes end like an OBE.
    OBE's also can go beyond the typical experience of a normal world environment.
    It seems to me that near death and out of body experiences both have levels to them. The NDE's more typically go through higher levels.
    – Out of body, world environment
    – local solor system environment
    – outer space environment with…
    – other world like environments with ultra vivid energy…
    – a personal heaven
    – reunion with familiar being's known since forever (before this life).
    – and higher levels than these
    NDE's are more prone to receiving in experience gifts, and or radically modified awareness (finding their furniture on the ceiling).
    I like what she is engaged in, because I have been trying to reconcile too.

  4. Buddhism has a lot to say about this which is almost totally ignored. But there is another body within the body of birth (the corporeal body) called the "manomayakaya" which is a mind-made (manomaya) body (kaya). The Buddha says of it:

    "From this body he creates another body, endowed with form, made of the mind, complete in all its parts, not inferior in its faculties. Just as if a man were to draw a reed from its sheath. The thought would occur to him: 'This is the sheath, this is the reed. The sheath is one thing, the reed another, but the reed has been drawn out from the sheath.' Or as if a man were to draw a sword from its scabbard. The thought would occur to him: 'This is the sword, this is the scabbard. The sword is one thing, the scabbard another, but the sword has been drawn out from the scabbard.' Or as if a man were to pull a snake out from its slough. The thought would occur to him: 'This is the snake, this is the slough. The snake is one thing, the slough another, but the snake has been pulled out from the slough.' In the same way — with his mind thus concentrated, purified, and bright, unblemished, free from defects, pliant, malleable, steady, and attained to imperturbability, the monk directs and inclines it to creating a mind-made body. From this body he creates another body, endowed with form, made of the mind, complete in all its parts, not inferior in its faculties." —  Samaññaphala Sutta